Engine Knocking Ticking Noise – Is this the end of your engine ?

Engine Knocking Ticking Noise - Is this the end of your engine ?
Engine Knocking Ticking Noise - Is this the end of your engine ?

So, what is that engine knocking ticking noise ?

Many assume this engine knocking ticking noise, is the end of their engine and just move on.

But, there are some ways to narrow down; where the engine knocking ticking noise, is actually coming from, and how bad it really is.

So, internal mechanical problems, can cause a engine knocking ticking noise. One such problem stems from, excessive clearance, inside the bearings in the connecting rods.

Engine Knocking Ticking Noise
Rod Bearing Knock

Consequently, they can transfer the downward movement of the pistons, to crankshaft rotation. As a result, each time the piston changes direction, there is a noise from the metal hitting metal.

This is often referred to as, a rod knock. It is usually very rhythmic and it increases with, engine speed and intensifies, with engine load.

Diagnose Engine Knocking Ticking Noise, With A Timing Light

So, valve train noises occur, at half of crankshaft speed. But, even if your ear can’t tell; whether the noise is happening at 800 or just 400 rpm, your eyes can.

Diagnose Engine Knocking Ticking Noise, With A Timing Light
Diagnose Engine Knocking Ticking Noise, With A Timing Light

Hook up the timing light, to any one cylinder and watch the flash. Look at the light for a while, to see if it coincides with the knock. If it does, it is valve train related.

But, if the noise seems twice as fast, it is probably in the:

  • Crank
  • Mains
  • Rods
  • Rod bearings
  • Pistons
  • Harmonic balancer
  • Flex plate

Rod knocking noises, are loudest at higher speeds (over 2500 RPM). So, feathering the gas pedal, may result in a distinctive back rattle, between 2500 and 3500 RPMs.

If enough rod bearing material has been worn away, it may even, double knock. As a result, the piston will whack the cylinder head. In addition, to the big end of the connecting rod, banging on the crankshaft rod journal. It will sound like a, hard metallic knock (rod) with an; alternating and somewhat muffled, aluminum (piston) knock sound. Wrist pin knock, in modern engines, is very rare today, but still possible.

Diagnose Engine Knocking Ticking Noise, With A Low Voltage Test Light

Shorting out the plug wires, one by one, with a common low voltage test light; may determine which cylinder, contains the noisy parts. Consequently, you won’t get the bulb to light up; but it is a convenient way to short the cylinders.

So, Attach the alligator clip, to a convenient ground; away from fuel system components. And, pierce the wire boots at the coil pack or distributor end of the wire.

Diagnose Engine Knocking Ticking Noise, With A Low Voltage Test Light
Diagnose Engine Knocking Ticking Noise, With A Low Voltage Test Light

You can also use straight pins, stuck in the ankle of the wire boots in the distributor. Then you touch, a grounded jumper wire to each one.

Noise Changes

If the noise changes, when the plug wire is shorted to ground; you can figure that the problem, is in the reciprocating bottom end parts. Possibly piston, wrist pin, connecting rod or connecting rod bearing. So, the reason the sound changes is, that when you short the cylinder plug wire; you are stopping the combustion chamber explosions, that are slamming the piston downward; making the inside of the big end of the connecting rod, bang against it’s connecting rod journal.

Knocking Ticking Noise
Bearing Cap Damage From Spun Bearing

If you get a change in the sound, when you short a cylinder out; you have confirmed that, the head and or oil pan must be removed, to actually find the problem. So, replacing a crankshaft, is always risky. Because, whatever made the bottom end fail, has also contaminated the rest of the engine, with debris. Causing, engine knocking ticking noise.

Valve Train Noises

Valve train noises, generally are loudest, up to 1500 rpms. But, Lifter noise is commonly misdiagnosed. In reality, lifters are quite trouble free.

Valve Train Noises
Valve Train Noises

So, dirt contamination on a engine, full of sludge is the number one cause of, true lifter noises. Consequently, low oil pressure, is number two. Whatever you do, don’t put engine flush, in a sludged engine!

We call it “Instant rod knock” ;because of the way it overloads the oil filter, to the point of opening the filter bypass valve; flooding and destroying the engine bearings with debris.

So, the only safe way, to clean a engine full of sludge is to, accelerate the oil changes. Therefore, letting the detergent in the oil do the cleaning, at a controlled rate. Like every 500 miles.

Replacing The Oil Pump Only, Is A Common Mistake

Oil Pump
Oil Pump

Over 95% of replaced oil pumps, did not need to be changed and rarely wear out. If you have low oil pressure, I would be more concerned about, excessive clearances and worn parts.

A deep rapping noise from the engine, is usually rod knock.  This is brought on by, extreme bearing wear or damage.

Sooner or later one of the bearings will fail, and when it does, one of two things will happen. The bearing will seize and lock up the engine, or it will attempt to seize and break a rod. Consequently, bearing noise is not unusual, in high mileage engines.

Worn Crank Journal
Worn Crank Journal
Worn Bearings
Worn Bearings

Bearing noise, can also be caused by:

  • Low oil pressure
  • Using too light a viscosity oil
  • Oil breakdown
  • Dirty oil or dirt in the crankcase
  • Excessive blow, by from worn rings and/or cylinders (gasoline dilutes and thins the oil).
  • Incorrect engine assembly (bearings too loose), loose or broken connecting rod bolts, or abusive driving.

Bearing wear can be checked by, dropping the oil pan and inspecting the rod and main bearings.

If the bearings are badly worn, damaged or loose, replacing the bearings may buy you some time. But, if the bearings are badly worn or damaged, the crankshaft will probably have to be reground.

Other mechanical problems that lead to, Engine Knocking Ticking Noise are:

  • Defective main crankshaft bearings.
  • A cracked or broken flywheel or flex plate, that attaches the engine to the transmission.
  • A worn water pump bearing.
  • A failed or loose timing belt tensioner can knock, when the timing belt slaps against it.
  • An air conditioning compressor can knock, when it is failing or icing up.
  • An alternator with worn rotor bearings, can knock when the pistons fire.

Conclusion

So, a heavier knocking sound, that gets louder, as engine (RPM)s pick up; can point to a rod knock or main bearing knock. Also, the pistons’ connecting rods, utilize bearings at their connections to the crankshaft. So, in the event of extreme wear or low oil levels, these bearings can develop; “slap” and wear to a point where they loosen up at the crankshaft.

The main bearings for the crankshaft, can also develop the same problem. And, it’s a problem that won’t get better on its own. Finally, that engine knocking ticking noise is going to escalate; to a point where, there’s only one recourse;—a complete engine rebuild.

Thank You !